[ihc] Re: ihc-digest V7 #578

["Dwight Claassen" <whest172@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The ignitor for the 404 is one number off of the SSII engines.  I will try
one.
Thanks
Dwight

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> ihc-digest           Friday, August 13 2004           Volume 07 : Number
578
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> Forum for Discussion of International Harvester
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> Contents:
>
> [ihc] Dist/Module for S-series truck
> re; [ihc] Putting 727 behind 152 in a Glassic
> Re: [ihc] Mr. Reed was right
> Re: [ihc] RE: ReNEWing the KB fuel pump
> [ihc] binder books????
> Re: [ihc] Tcases
> [ihc] Putting 727 behind 152 in a Glassic
> Re: [ihc] binder books????
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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:14:25 -0700
> From: "Jim Grammer" <jgrammer@domain.elided>
> Subject: [ihc] Dist/Module for S-series truck
>
> >Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 08:49:23 -0500
> >From: "Dwight Claassen" <whest172@domain.elided>
> >Subject: [ihc] Dist/Module for S-series truck
>
> >I am trying to find a replacement distributor or electronic module for my
> >'80 S-series truck with the 404.  I can only buy the complete setup from
> IHC
> >for big bucks.  Where can I find a module or rebuil dist.  This is not
the
> >same dist. as the scout.  Don't know about the module.  This is a
> Prestolite
> >4003.  IHC # 484790 C91
>
> >Thanks
> >Dwight Claassen
>
> While it isn't the same dizzy per se, I strongly suspect that the
Pertronix
> Ignitor for the SII Prestolite internal module dizzy will fit. I'd call
> Pertronix first. Failing a confirmation of the application from them,
maybe
> compare side by side with a SII dizzy before ordering(?).
>
> Jim
>
> Anybody want an MV404?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 19:12:45 EDT
> From: DeepSouthScouts@domain.elided
> Subject: re; [ihc] Putting 727 behind 152 in a Glassic
>
> =From: John Fleck <john@domain.elided>
> =Subject: [ihc] Putting 727 behind 152 in a Glassic
>
> =Hey Gang,
>
> =I wondered if anyone remembers or knows how to do the flywheel setup for
> =putting a 727 behind a 152 in a 1967 Glassic(scout 800 chassie and
running
> =gear with fiberglass bodied car on it.
>
> =I seem to remember someone doing it. They took the V-8 flywheel and
removed
> =the weights on one side or something like that. I suppos a guy could just
> =have the rotating assembly balanced and that would cure that. Let me know
> =if you know something.
>
> =John
>
> John,
> Ive done a bit of research on 727/196 pairing. Ive exchanged
> emails with a few people who have done it too. Its a project that Im
toying
> with.
>
> >From my research the IH V8 is "externally" balanced and needs weights on
> the flywheel/flexplate, and the front balancer.
>
> The IH 4 cyl however is "internally" balanced and needs no weights on
> the flywheel/flexplate, or front balancer.
>
> The way they've all done it is grind "all" the weights off the V8
flexplate,
> then bolt it on the crank using the V8 flexplate spacer. They then
> attached a standard V8 torque converter and the 727. No problems and
> no vibrations reported by any of them.
>
> The 196 is said to be adequate for use with the 727, though its no V8.
>
> I wonder if the 152 would have enough ooomph? Let us know how it works.
>
> Mike Toney
> Mobile, AL.
> Southern International Harvester Owners [S.I.H.O.]
> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/southernihowners
> 72 Scout II, 4x4, 304, T18, 3:31
> 73 1010 Travelall, 2wd, 345, 727, 3:54
> Scout 800, 4x4, 152, 3 speed, D20, D44s, 32s, (under construction)
> Scout 80, 2x4, 196, 727, SII D44 rear, SII disc front, (under
construction)
> Scout 800, 4x4, 3 speed, D18, (parts truck)
> http://www.myinternationaltrucks.iwarp.com/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 17:16:43 -0700
> From: "Tom Reed" <treed@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: [ihc] Mr. Reed was right
>
> Sorry Jim,
>
> At least you got it before much rust occurred in the cylinder bores. My #5
> looks pretty bad at the top of the bore and I didn't "get it" until I
> experienced a partial hydro lock on startup. It's funny how all the parts
> are sort of connect to each other.
>
> Tom Reed
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:20:41 -0400
> From: "David Gregg" <dgregg@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: [ihc] RE: ReNEWing the KB fuel pump
>
> Thanks to all who replied of E-mailed me with sites.
> I now have them all in a folder so I can find them as needed.
> Again thanks, that what makes this so list so great, the willingness to
help
> one and another.
> David Gregg
> NW Ohio
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 18:42:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: mark stegmann <truckdriver_1977@domain.elided>
> Subject: [ihc] binder books????
>
> Hey gang, has anyone tried to get anything from Binder
> Books lately? A couple of guys on a cub cadet list I'm
> on have tried lately, but their calls/emails have gone
> unanswered.
>
> Mark
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:17:42 -0600
> From: bearbvd@domain.elided (Greg Hermann)
> Subject: Re: [ihc] Tcases
>
> At 10:55 AM 8/11/04, Joel M Brodsky wrote:
> >Ahhh. Okay, so if it looks like a 205 and the rods are side-by-side like
a
> >205 then it's a 205.  But if the rods are over-under,
> >it's a 201 or 202?  Then the 205 and the 20 look a lot alike , and this
one
> >with the 3 bolt rear cap is a 205?
> >Is there any need to make a 205 a twin stick?  Can it be done?
>
> Serves the same purpose/needs as doing it to a 20. Yep, it's doable.
>
> HOWINELL can you confuse a 205 with a 20 ?? The size difference is only
> STRIKING ---
>
> And--20's have no PTO cover---
>
> Greg
>
> >The reason I ask is because I got a deal on this 205 and it doesn't have
a
> >shifter assembly on it, so I can do whatever I want.
> >
> >JoelB
> >
> >
> >
> >At 3:07 PM 8/10/04, Joel M Brodsky wrote:
> >>So, the 201 and 202 have the shift rods coming out of the TOP of the
> >Tcase?
> >>So, if it looks like a 205 and the shift rods point forward like a 205
> >>does, then it's a 205?
> >>
> >>JoelB
> >
> >NO, the way he wrot that was corn-fusing. The axis of the rods runs fore
> >and aft on all of them, but where the rods are side by side on a 205,
they
> >are one over the other on the 201 and 202.
> >
> >G
> >r
> >e
> >g
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 21:09:30 -0700
> From: "Christine N. Gust" <dukkha@domain.elided>
> Subject: [ihc] Putting 727 behind 152 in a Glassic
>
> John
>
> 1966 - 1971 used a T-13. The Automatic was not introduced until 1972 when
> they started putting Ford V-8's in them.
> There were only about 400 International Drive Trains produced in 1972.
Very
> few standard transmission Ford engine cars were built. Perhaps 12 or so of
> them. There was little space for the clutch and brake pedals and they were
> more expensive to build than the automatic transmission version.
>
> Engine swap. Regarding the International Model 80 or 800 cars. There was
> ample room in them for any small block V-8 engine to be installed, and the
> frames were certainly strong enough. Considerations in converting: you
> probably would want an automatic transmission, the motor mounts would have
> to be cut off and new ones fabricated, and the radiator would have to be
> re-worked, including adding a cooler for the transmission.
>
> All of the production V-8's were build on special made frames (Only one
V-8
> prototype was made on an actual Scout frame, and that was a 289 cubic inch
> with a 4 speed transmission)
>
> While all this is fun information it does not answer your question
>
> I would try John Comer as he has helped the Glassic Community on a few
> things or try their message board at
> http://glassicannex.org
>
> Robert
>
> 1970 1200D - Douglas Fir fodder
> 1973 Scout II - POW/MIA
> 1979 SSII - On the to do list after the daughter
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:03:04 -0700
> From: John Hofstetter <hofs@domain.elided>
> Subject: Re: [ihc] binder books????
>
> On Aug 11, 2004, at 6:42 PM, mark stegmann wrote:
>
> > Hey gang, has anyone tried to get anything from Binder
> > Books lately? A couple of guys on a cub cadet list I'm
> > on have tried lately, but their calls/emails have gone
> > unanswered.
> >
> > Mark
>
> Mark,
>
> They were at North West and looked to be very much in business.
>
> John
>
> John Hofstetter
> Ol' Saline
> www.goldrush.com/~hofs
>
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