Well, Mac thinks my story might be too long for the list to accept it, so we'll try this... http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=24934 -Ryan --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 7/9/04