RE: Alignment question

["Steven Stegmann" <steve.stegmann@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dave,

The way this adjustment works on the Scout II is really easy.  You just
loosen the clamp nuts on each end of the tie rod itself.  Then just grab the
tie rod in the middle.  Turn it one way and you increase toe out, turn it
the other way and you increase toe in.  Note that the tie rod ends are
threaded with a different pitch.  So the amount of toe change per rev is
actually the difference between the pitches of the two ends.

Of course you may spend the extra hours on the obligatory rust freezing the
threads on the tie rod ends.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: David Bongo [mailto:dbongo@domain.elided]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:37 PM
To: Ryan Moore
Cc: Mac @ TRIAD; Steven Stegmann; IHC Digest
Subject: Re: Alignment question




Ryan Moore wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mac @ TRIAD" <mac@domain.elided>
> To: "Ryan Moore" <baradium@domain.elided>; "Steven Stegmann"
> <steve.stegmann@domain.elided>; "David Bongo" <dbongo@domain.elided>; "IHC
> Digest" <ihc-digest@domain.elided>
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 09:06
> Subject: RE: Alignment question
>
> > that's only true if the tie rod has adjustments at both ends, Ryan.  our
> > 1968 800 and 1970 800A Scouts both have the drag link attached to the
tie
> > rod somewhere close to centre of the axle pumpkin.  in both cases, the
> > adjuster is only at one end of the tie rod, not both, which means any
> > adjustment you make will affect total toe-in or -out and possibly
steering
> > wheel placement.  they put the adjuster directly above the springs too,
> and
> > that makes adjustment something of a bear to do.
> >
> > what's odd is that for the two Scouts, the adjustments are on opposite
> > sides.  the 800A has the adjuster on the driver's side, and the 800 has
it
> > on the passenger side.  you can't just flip the tie rod around to swap
> which
> > end goes where because of the tie rod link, so at some point IH had to
> have
> > redesigned the tie rod.  i wonder why?
> >
> > --Mac
> >
>
> Ah, I was unaware of the different arangement on 80/800s...  although I
> could have sworn the one on the '69 800A I looked at once was the same as
on
> my scout... but maybe I just missed that....
>
> But doesn't he drive a II?  in which case the statement still stands that
it
> won't change steering.
>
> -Ryan

Yes, Ryan it is a Scout II.  And everyone else (Ryan,Steve, Mac, etc.)
thanks
for the replies.  I did well in abstract algebra, number theory, and that
stuff
back in college, but Scout maintainence is something new to me.

As I understand this setup, you can roughly adjust each side independently.
By
removing the cotter pin, disconnecting the tie rod end from the knuckle,
adjusting the end 1 full turn (either in or out) and reconnecting the whole
setup.  A pain in the butt?  Absolutely, which is why I didn't insist on it.

(I doubt if it makes a difference, but I do have a 2WD so my steering setup
might be slightly different from the 4WD most of you guys seem to have.)

As for the steering wheel not being centered, yes it is annoying.  But I'm
getting used to it already.  In a few days I should know instinctively where
center is.

Thanks again, all.

Dave