Yank, You need the shim in the starter with auto trannies. This could very well cause the problem. You should be able to look at the starter and see the shim. _____Dan Nees_____ cookiedan@domain.elided 3 Scout's, one shotgun, 20/20 vision. http://members.tripod.com/~IHCaholic/scoutindex.html http://www.triplediamond.org