Re: Spindle flange nut size?

[Kevin Curry <kevin@domain.elided>]

Tom Mandera wrote:

> I do NOT believe it's the same as the Travel*ALL*!  My Travelall has the
> "internal" style hubs like a Ford, which makes it (should make it.  I
> haven't had it apart) 19-splines.

That's just what I was told after I received the wrong hubs the 1st time around. The
retailer said it was a "crap shoot" when it came to identifying parts on 'binders'

> In any event, the socket you bought was a thin wall socket, not a
> "4-point" sort of "castellated" socket, right?  The 4-prong unit is for
> the Ford/Chevy (and T'all I believe) assemblies.

Correct. I bought a socket not the pronged thang.

> > this is where the flange nut is exposed. it is a large one with a thin metal
> > plate folded around 2 sides of it. I bought a flange nut remover and when I ws
>
> Thin plate is a "lock ring" of sorts.  You need to pound this lock-ring
> away from the nut.

That's what I figured - I bent it back

> > attempting to turn the flange nut I stripped out the ½" drive hole.. I plan on
>
> What did you use, your IMPACT wrench?  (BTDT)

Negative - pure raw muscle power! :O) Actually, the socket is really made of soft
flimsy metal.

> > purchasing a much heavier duty flange nut socket and using a cheater to remove
>
> I doubt you'll find one.  You need the thin-wall socket so it'll
> physically fit inside the hub assembly.  If you DO find one, get two and
> send me one. ;-)

They're out there, Jeff Bade said he got one from the Snap-On guy.

> > it. Like I mentioned before, I understand that flange nut is to be torqued only
> > to about 5#'s or so.
>

Makes no sense to me either since there is nothing really to keep it from backing out
except for the hub ad snap-ring.

> That's not what *I* have read a number of times.
>
> Two nuts.
>
> It goes outer wheelbearing, washer (If I remember right), then
> wheelbearing nut - another 6pt nut.  This is torqued to 30-ish foot-lbs
> while turning the rotor.  You then back off 1/4 turn.
>
> Then put the second washer on (the bent up one), and then the second
> (outer) wheelbearing nut.  *THIS* is a jam nut, and yes, the factory
> manual calls for something much closer to ONEHUNDRED FIFTY foot-pounds,
> not FIVE.  That's 150, not 5.  I think the spec is actually 125, but in
> any manner, it's *LOTS*

That crappy socket would have NEVER gotten that nut off at 150#-ft!! You think maybe
the local Navistar dealer may have a socket?

> Enough that it's a real chore to hold the thin-wall socket onto the nut,
> and pull up on my torque wrench with that kind of force, without
> slipping the socket off and sending the whole mess flying, and most
> likely munching my hands in something.

Got that right!

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