Re: My 392

["Owen" <renarac@domain.elided>]

180d off acts exactly like you describe. Or stuck advancer weights/vacuum
arm and you're 10d advanced already.

If you had POINTS, you could see exactly when the points open.

I also had the case where I was one plug location off. #1 was on #8
distributor location. Did that too.


----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Mandera <tsm1@domain.elided>
To: <ihc@domain.elided>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 1999 9:41 PM
Subject: My 392


> More work on the 392 tonight..
>
> Bought a new PVC valve and hose.. tried to install it, but it doesn't fit
> very snugly and easily comes out.  I used a round cylinder w/o a
> "nipple".. and still can't get the "nipple'd" version in if I wanted to.
>
> Tried to plug up any other vacuum leaks I could see.
>
> Pulled all 8 spark plugs and replaced with 9 new ones I had on hand (yes,
> nine new plugs handy - and I broke one plug, behind the power steering
> pump, on installation so I needed the 9th)
>
> Old plugs were pretty nasty looking.  OK, so maybe it was plugs..
>
> Left #8 out and turned the motor around (with a friend) until #8 stopped
> pushing air out.  Rotor was pointing at the water pump bypass hose, just
> like I had thought.  #1 cylinder was already attached to it.
>
> Replaced another spark plug wire when I changed out the plugs.
>
> Used a bungee cord as a throttle return spring (good idea, Peter. <g>)
>
> Went to fire it up.. still won't run.  Spits, coughs, belches.. but won't
> run.  It has gas.  It has spark.  We changed out the coil for a new Accel
> I had handy.  No change.  Pulled a plug (the new 'ones) and found gas on
> it - it has fuel.  Hooked the spark plug wire up to a "spark tester" I
> have - yup, got spark.
>
> When I found #8 TDC, I also took note of the harmonic balancer - the
> timing mark was to the "top" (near the timing indicators on the block).
>
> Tried moving plug wires one hole over again.. more flames.
>
> Still getting a few pops out of the exhaust, and a belches of smoke from
> the carb.
>
> I loosened the distributor and rotated it - didn't seem to help much.
>
> The points are working since I'm getting some spark.  It's getting fuel
> *and* spark since I'm getting pops and smoke out of the carb.  It's
> getting fuel since the spark plugs are wet.
>
> Could the distributor still be 180 degrees off?  *I* haven't touched it,
> but who knows..
>
> I guess, since I have fuel n' spark, that would lend itself to timing
> problems.. right?
>
> What are the classic symptoms of 180-deg off distributor?
>
> I'm sure I'm close.. just to get it running..
>
> -Tom Mandera, Helena MT
> http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout
> 1972 IHC Travelall 1110 1/2T 4x4 - 392, 727, 3.73 Dana 44s
>