Re: Re[2]: Joel

[Tom Mandera <tsm1@domain.elided>]

On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Daniel Nees wrote:

> They added speed liits in Montana?! What a bummer. I just all faith I
> had left in this country. The last bastion of freedom is also being
> brought to it's knees by bleeding heart liberals trying to save lives in
> high speed accidents that happen regardless of the speed limits. (If any

I was watching the death toll go down.. and I told everyone it would... 
sooner or later all of the idiots would be dead and the rest of us would 
know not to drive 120mph around a windy mountain road with shart dropoffs 
in a'47 Ford pickup... and hey, those folks are the ones we don't want 
reproducing anyhow, so we're killing two birds with one stone..

The rise of speedlimits in Montana came about because someone over in 
Billings got two speeding tickets for going over 100mph.. he fought the 
tickets, claimed "Reasonable and Prudent" was so vague it was 
unconstitutional and he won.. so he blew his ticket, and now we ALL get a 
speed limit.. I hope he doesn't frequent dark alleys...

I think, if I read the law right, up to 85mph is a $10 (or $20?) fine 
that's not even a misdemeanor.. it doesn't go on your record.  Or maybe 
it was 90 or 95?  There was a certain speed (above 75) that you didn't 
get a ticket.. then a 10mph range where it's the $20-no-insurance-hike 
ticket, but at 20+ (95+) over, it's a reckless.. 

A lot like our old "nickel tickets".. for violating the "fuel 
conservation"... going 85mph in a 65 zone?  $5 and no record.. (or, in my 
case, 75mph in a 55mph zone... $5.  76mph would've been a big ticket, 
*AND* re-instatement of my deferred reckless.. *whew* that was close)

-Tom